Thanks for that! Been curious as I've purposely never driven a SC/Turbo Elige because I'm pretty sure I'd want one on mine... A NA Tune seems like the next best thing (keep me away from your passenger seat!). I wonder if the other Tunes now available (Inokinetic & MWR) have similar cold start or other issue(s)? MWR appears more complicated to install...?

Good luck getting your Code resolved, that would drive me crazy... literally

Hey Dave!  Excellent to hear from you!

In short, yes, I would do it again. However, as you drive your car WAY more often than I drive mine, note the following:

Positives: (1) The engine is noticeably stronger. What I recall noticing immediately after the tune install was being able to leave the car in 6th up a certain hill (that I drove frequently) without what had been the typical need or bog-down feeling to shift down into 5th. Leaving it in 6th had become fine; (2) The power bandwidth became more linear. The lowered cam shift is smooth (but no more 6250 rpm jolt, which I miss); (3) the nice exhaust pops and gurgles are still there.

Negatives: (1) Known cold-start issue. Phil (BOE) knows about this issue, indicated that it’s common for the NA Torque 200 tune in general and that he can’t really do anything about it. For my car, it takes at least a couple attempts to start (unless already warm or at least beyond that initial start). With a cold start, it more or less sputters to life rather than springs to life. Once warm, it’s fine, though.

Other negative, though it could be my car and not the tune: P0139 comes up (came up 266 miles after installing the tune). I reset the code and it comes back again. Phil doesn’t believe this is from the tune and I could not find where this issue was consistent for everyone posting about the tune. So, it could be the tune or it could be my car (I have my original ECU and tune; but I haven’t yet tried switching back to see).

Other observation but I’m not citing this as a negative, just an observation and I don’t know if this is from the tune or something else with my car or what: the cooling fans seem to come on more often than they did. Engine operating temp is still as it was for OEM, though (187 to 189 typically).

Just one other comment is that the tune was to include software that one could use via the OBD port to, I think, swap tunes and perform minor tweaks; but I’ve yet to see that software (and I don’t think I will).

All in all, I remain quite happy with the tune. I myself can live with the cold-start issue; but I would eventually like to sort out the P0139 issue (which I believe is O2-sensor related).


Update: Added positive point that the nice exhaust pops and gurgles are still there after the tune.

I'm registered. I'll be in the novice group as I've never been on this track before. Green '08 Exige. See you there!

Question - my car is very loud (2bular decat + arqray catback), should I install another exhaust to make sound at this track? Any suggestions?

God willing... I plan to participate both Sat & Sun. Hope to see more than MB's on the track! Skid Pad is also planned to be open, great controlled environment to help learn limits...

Dave

Hello ksm! Been awhile... Curious about your thoughts on the Torque 200 after 2+ yrs? Would you do it again or stick with stock? I have no (current) desire to SC or Turbo... Any downsides one would plan ahead for? Appreciate any feedback, Dave